40. Leopoldo discussed the Captain’s final statement to the
Court that morning while he was dressed in his military uniform.
He felt that in dressing this way, the Captain was sending a clear
message to the Prosecution lawyers that a threat made against him is
a threat made against the entire Guatemalan military. Zeissig
also noted that the Captain’s remarks had been very personal and
that he had at one point said that he had lost his daughter because
of “you”, referring specifically to Zeissig.
41. He said that they want to establish a line of communication
with Lawyers’ Rights Watch Canada and they want to know that they
have someone to call if they need to do so. While they said that
they intended to remain in their posts and in Guatemala, they both
stated that they have families to protect and that they had
considered fleeing Guatemala, albeit as a last resort.
42. They said that their position was very tentative and that
they had to remain very sharp and vigilant against the continuing
and increasing threats that had been made. He also said that
he was very appreciative of the support that they had received from
the international community. He noted that in the past that
they had felt very alone especially when taking any military accused
to trial and that very few people were willing to help. He concluded
by thanking us for our interest.
43. The Fiscales had some comments with regard to the Guatemalan
justice system in general. Zeissig said that in Guatemala
lawyers are adapting slowly to the new adversarial system,
promulgated in 1994. He noted that it would be of great interest to
lawyers in Guatemala to receive some kind of ongoing training with
regard to the adversarial system.
June 7, 2001 3:00pm, Colegio de Abogados y Notarios de Guatemala
(the Guatemalan Bar Association) , Presidente Mario Renè Chàvez
Garcia
44. Again I gave a brief overview of the LRWC and IDC.
45. Chavez indicated that membership in the Colegio is mandatory
in order for lawyers to practice in Guatemala. The goal of the
Colegio is to provide legal education and to monitor the ethics of
the profession. The Colegio organizes seminars and certification
processes for certain areas of the law. He indicated that many
of the seminars are directed at ensuring that Guatemalan lawyers are
following the professional code of ethics.
46. Chavez also noted that the Colegio does have a disciplinary
function and that there was a body which he described as a “court
of honour” which is responsible for professional sanctions.
47. Chavez also indicated that the Colegio was involved in a
number of initiatives which centred on the speedy and accessible
delivery of justice for all citizens in Guatemala. He noted
the great challenge that Guatemala faced with regard to the
legitimacy of the judicial system and again referred to the public
lynchings which had occurred in the past.
48. He also said that during the civil war and in particular the
period in Guatemalan history between 1975 and 1985, over 50 lawyers
had been killed as a direct result of political repression conducted
by the State. However with regard to the seven most recent
assassinations, the common denominator seemed to be organised crime.
The Colegio has been monitoring the progress of the investigations
and Chavez indicated that he has spoken with the Director of Police
and also with MINUGUA as well as with the investigators at the
Ministerio Publico. He said that the Director of Police had
told him that based upon what he knew of the assassinations that it
would likely never be known who the killers were. He also noted that
the new public office which was specifically targeted at violence
against people working in the legal system had not made much
progress.
49. Chavez noted that in terms of supporting human rights for
lawyers that the Colegio had been a driving force behind the
creation of the government-run human rights office, the
Constitutional Court, and the Supreme Electoral Court and that the
College had been a driving force in pushing for the
constitutionalization of these institutions.
50. Chavez also indicated that the Colegio had been backing the
most recent referendum effort which would have seen a number of
reforms to the judiciary. Chavez noted that in terms of protecting
the ability for lawyers to practice freely that more often than not,
as opposed to lobbying the Government it had meant that associations
like the Colegio had to position themselves against the Government.
In the past, part of their efforts had involved looking for
solidarity from organisations like the American Bar Association and
the Inter-American Association of Lawyers. To his knowledge,
there has not been any ongoing relationship with Canada.
51. Chavez recalled a time when he had been the President of the
Journalists Association in Guatemala. He remembered that a
representative of the Canadian Embassy had established a phone
line which had effectively allowed at least twelve (12) journalists
to flee the country when it was likely that they otherwise would
have been killed as a result of articles and editorials that they
had written. Chavez expressed that he had a deep respect for
the Canadian role in Guatemala during the war.
52. Chavez said that the Colegio would be very interested in
learning more about such institutions as the British Columbia Law
Court’s Education Society as the development of public respect for
the law in Guatemala is a priority. He indicated that there was a
subcommittee of the College which was designated to work on public
education.
June
7, 2001 5:00pm, Oficina de Derechos Humanos del Arzobispado de
Guatemala (ODHAG) at the Hotel Camino Real
53. I had an opportunity to have a formal meeting with the three
prosecuting lawyers from ODHAG, but I had already been spending
quite a bit of time with staff from ODHAG, in particular Mike Flynn
who had been acting as my translator and Marta Julia who had been
arranging my schedule. Without ODHAG’s help my trip would have
been much less productive. On June 7, 2001 I had been hanging out
with the ODHAG lawyers between my meetings, although we had some
time for a more formal meeting later in the afternoon.